A lot of people have been bugging me about the Xaw3d 3d scrollbars (this is what they usually call what the author calls arrowscrollbars). First, let me describe them (for those that have never seen them): they (I mean the scrollbars, not the people that have been bugging me) have a "3d looking" bar where you usually have the gray area in your scrollbar, and two arrows on either end of the scrollbar (also looking 3d). Now you can click on the bar, an nothing happens (whatever button you click). Only if you hold it (whatever button), you can move it up or down. Clicking on the up/down arrows, will move the bar (and thus the part of what you see in the xterm) up/down. Holding one of the arrows down will make the bar go up/down continuesly. Now, for what I don't like about the arrowscrollbars (and not just me,...): - It doens't really add any functionality to the scrollbar: dragging the bar up/down already could be done with the middle button, and if you want to move it up/down, you can do that by clicking with the right/left button in the scrollbar. - It doens't work in xterm. Xterm needs to be patched so that holding the arrows causes the bar to move down continuesly. This really makes the arrowscrollbars rather useless with xterms - It's a compile-time option, i.e. if I haven't compiled it in there's now way for you to ever see the arrowscrollbars unless you compile it yourself, or get some other version. debian release 0 didn't have the arrow-scrollbars, when I released 1, I thought, what the heck, I'll compile them in, but got a few compaints about them, and people quickly convinced me to take them out again. BTW, one meaningless datapoint: someone who asked me about the arrowscrollbars, who first really wanted them, was rather disappointed with them, and now agrees with me about not compiling them in... *************** ** "I never use xterm (I use rxvt), and I want my arrow-scrollbars" ** Well, you can compile your own version: get the source (xaw3d-1.2a.?.tar.gz), untar, and, in the file ./xaw3d-1.2a/lib/Xaw3d/Imakefile, line 250: # EXTRA_DEFINES = -DARROW_SCROLLBAR remove the "#" at the beginning of the line. then go to the ./xaw3d-1.2a directory, and type ./debian.rules build su root ./debian.rules binary dpkg -i ../xaw3d-1.2a-?.deb That should do it. After you've done it, and if your're still fond of the arrow-scrollbars, I'd be interested in hearing from you. If there realy are a lot of people that want(and afterwards even like) the arrow-scrollbars, I may device a sceem to make them an install-time-option. ****************